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y2k

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09/27/2009 12:20 PM
Hi all Sorry - this topic is a little OT as it's more related to MSIs rather than GP. Were currently planning our deployment (via GPO) of Adobe Reader 9.1.3 to replace Reader 8. As Adobe have already released 2 patches (in MSP format) we're trying to figure out the best way to deploy the MSI & MSP's all at once Normally i don't create admin installs ... I prefer to just have the MSI & 1 or 2 CAB files rather than an MSI with extra files & folders etc. I've also had problems in the past with trying to use one admin install & 2 different MST's (different license keys). And of course there's also the issue where some vendor MSIs won't let you do admin installs !! Of course the disadvantage to this is not being able to apply patches afterwards I'm just wondering how most other shops who use GPO to deploy their apps handle this ? Are there any "best practices" from MS ? Anybody have any advice or pitfalls to avoid ? Thanks in advance for any advice or feedback anybody has Thanks !! M

davesharples User is Offline

Posts:55

09/27/2009 12:20 PM
Hi, we use the base MSI for the install, no admin images and then the msp's go in via a startup script so they all go in at once (the script then checks if it already exists so subsequent reboots don't reinstall it) The uninstall still works fine when the computer goes out of scope Dave On 11/08/2009 21:24, "Darren Mar-Elia" <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Martin- No new advice here but I can tell you that everything I've ever used and read about MSI patching and GP typically requires the admin install. It would be interesting to hear what others are doing but I think this is somewhat a function of the Windows Installer. Darren -----Original Message----- From: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of martin Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 1:10 PM To: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [gptalk] [OT] Do you use admin installs ? Hi all Sorry - this topic is a little OT as it's more related to MSIs rather than GP. Were currently planning our deployment (via GPO) of Adobe Reader 9.1.3 to replace Reader 8. As Adobe have already released 2 patches (in MSP format) we're trying to figure out the best way to deploy the MSI & MSP's all at once Normally i don't create admin installs ... I prefer to just have the MSI & 1 or 2 CAB files rather than an MSI with extra files & folders etc. I've also had problems in the past with trying to use one admin install & 2 different MST's (different license keys). And of course there's also the issue where some vendor MSIs won't let you do admin installs !! Of course the disadvantage to this is not being able to apply patches afterwards I'm just wondering how most other shops who use GPO to deploy their apps handle this ? Are there any "best practices" from MS ? Anybody have any advice or pitfalls to avoid ? Thanks in advance for any advice or feedback anybody has Thanks !! M

Martin_Hugo User is Offline

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09/27/2009 12:24 PM
Don't really have a definitive answer for you but here are a couple of issues we ran into while deploying Reader. If a user had a full (older) version of Adobe on their system there were sometimes conflicts as to which Adobe would win when a user clicked on a PDF file (reader or Full). Then there is the garbage that comes with reader 9.x (air or whatever) and the automatic update checking which has to be turned off in user prefs if the users don't have install privileges. Check out appdeploy.com for more info. Martin T. Hugo Network Administrator Hilliard City Schools 614-921-7102 (Ph) 614-771-7243 (Fax) Think before you print -----Original Message----- From: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of martin Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 4:10 PM To: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [gptalk] [OT] Do you use admin installs ? Hi all Sorry - this topic is a little OT as it's more related to MSIs rather than GP. Were currently planning our deployment (via GPO) of Adobe Reader 9.1.3 to replace Reader 8. As Adobe have already released 2 patches (in MSP format) we're trying to figure out the best way to deploy the MSI & MSP's all at once Normally i don't create admin installs ... I prefer to just have the MSI & 1 or 2 CAB files rather than an MSI with extra files & folders etc. I've also had problems in the past with trying to use one admin install & 2 different MST's (different license keys). And of course there's also the issue where some vendor MSIs won't let you do admin installs !! Of course the disadvantage to this is not being able to apply patches afterwards I'm just wondering how most other shops who use GPO to deploy their apps handle this ? Are there any "best practices" from MS ? Anybody have any advice or pitfalls to avoid ? Thanks in advance for any advice or feedback anybody has Thanks !! M

rpo8373

Posts:43

09/27/2009 12:24 PM
hi, we don't use admin installs here. i'm fairly certain i've deployed an msp without an admin install point before. something along these lines i think works: c:\windows\system32\msiexec.exe /p patchfile.msp REINSTALL=ALL REINSTALLMODE=omus we use sms 2003 here for software deployments so we're no longer limited to deploying msi's only. i wouldn't worry too much about adobe. they're reader and acrobat packages are the worst i've ever come across - they'll update new versions via msp's for a while, then all of a sudden bring out a new version that is a complete new msi and you have to go through a process of removing the previous version entirely. in contrast, their flash player msi is brilliant and possibly the best msi i've ever worked with - it automatically removes the previous versions and quickly and cleanly installs the new version. daniel. 2009/8/12 martin <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Hi all > > Sorry - this topic is a little OT as it's more related to MSIs rather than > GP. > > Were currently planning our deployment (via GPO) of Adobe Reader 9.1.3 to > replace Reader 8. As Adobe have already released 2 patches (in MSP format) > we're trying to figure out the best way to deploy the MSI & MSP's all at > once > > Normally i don't create admin installs ... I prefer to just have the MSI & > 1 or 2 CAB files rather than an MSI with extra files & folders etc. I've > also had problems in the past with trying to use one admin install & 2 > different MST's (different license keys). And of course there's also the > issue where some vendor MSIs won't let you do admin installs !! > > Of course the disadvantage to this is not being able to apply patches > afterwards > > I'm just wondering how most other shops who use GPO to deploy their apps > handle this ? Are there any "best practices" from MS ? Anybody have any > advice or pitfalls to avoid ? > > Thanks in advance for any advice or feedback anybody has > > Thanks !! > M > > >

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