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pamarthsUser is Offline

Posts:48

12/26/2009 9:13 AM  
Is there any option to make only certain GPOs execute asynchronously in a
Windows 7 environment? Also is it possible to only force certain GPOs to get
applied irrespective of their version changes?

I feel having this kind of facilities will really boost the performance.

Thanks,

dmareliaUser is Offline

Posts:441

12/28/2009 2:51 PM  
No, asynchronous processing is an all or nothing affair. If you enable it, then all foreground processing happens asynchronously. Note that that is the default since XP. You have to explicitly disable asynchronous processing using the "Always wait for the network at computer startup and user logon" policy.

As for the 2nd part of your question, same as the first. You can only set processing irrespective of changes on a per-CSE basis. So, in other words, you can tell GP to always processing Admin. Template policy, regardless of changes, or security policy, etc. But not on a per GPO basis.

Darren

From: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Sitaram Pamarthi
Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2009 1:11 AM
To: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [gptalk] asynchronous GPOs

Is there any option to make only certain GPOs execute asynchronously in a Windows 7 environment? Also is it possible to only force certain GPOs to get applied irrespective of their version changes?

I feel having this kind of facilities will really boost the performance.

Thanks,


pamarthsUser is Offline

Posts:48

12/29/2009 11:14 AM  
Thanks Darren.

Where I can find the per CSE enable/disable option for my 2nd question.

Thanks,
Sitaram

On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 8:20 PM, Darren Mar-Elia <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>wrote:

> No, asynchronous processing is an all or nothing affair. If you enable
> it, then all foreground processing happens asynchronously. Note that that is
> the default since XP. You have to explicitly disable asynchronous processing
> using the “Always wait for the network at computer startup and user logon”
> policy.
>
>
>
> As for the 2nd part of your question, same as the first. You can only set
> processing irrespective of changes on a per-CSE basis. So, in other words,
> you can tell GP to always processing Admin. Template policy, regardless of
> changes, or security policy, etc. But not on a per GPO basis.
>
>
>
> Darren
>
>
>
> *From:* xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
> xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Sitaram Pamarthi
> *Sent:* Saturday, December 26, 2009 1:11 AM
> *To:* xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> *Subject:* [gptalk] asynchronous GPOs
>
>
>
> Is there any option to make only certain GPOs execute asynchronously in a
> Windows 7 environment? Also is it possible to only force certain GPOs to get
> applied irrespective of their version changes?
>
>
>
> I feel having this kind of facilities will really boost the performance.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
>
>

dmareliaUser is Offline

Posts:441

12/30/2009 2:51 PM  
Computer Configuration\Administrative Templates\System\Group Policy

From: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Sitaram Pamarthi
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 3:14 AM
To: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [gptalk] asynchronous GPOs

Thanks Darren.

Where I can find the per CSE enable/disable option for my 2nd question.

Thanks,
Sitaram
On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 8:20 PM, Darren Mar-Elia <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
No, asynchronous processing is an all or nothing affair. If you enable it, then all foreground processing happens asynchronously. Note that that is the default since XP. You have to explicitly disable asynchronous processing using the "Always wait for the network at computer startup and user logon" policy.

As for the 2nd part of your question, same as the first. You can only set processing irrespective of changes on a per-CSE basis. So, in other words, you can tell GP to always processing Admin. Template policy, regardless of changes, or security policy, etc. But not on a per GPO basis.

Darren

From: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> [mailto:xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>] On Behalf Of Sitaram Pamarthi
Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2009 1:11 AM
To: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [gptalk] asynchronous GPOs

Is there any option to make only certain GPOs execute asynchronously in a Windows 7 environment? Also is it possible to only force certain GPOs to get applied irrespective of their version changes?

I feel having this kind of facilities will really boost the performance.

Thanks,



pamarthsUser is Offline

Posts:48

01/05/2010 1:29 PM  
Just a small correction.

This policy(Always wait for the network at computer startup and user logon)
is available under "Computer Configuration\Administrative
Templates\System\Logon"
Thanks,
Sitaram
On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 8:19 PM, Darren Mar-Elia <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>wrote:

> Computer Configuration\Administrative Templates\System\Group Policy
>
>
>
> *From:* xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
> xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Sitaram Pamarthi
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 29, 2009 3:14 AM
>
> *To:* xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> *Subject:* Re: [gptalk] asynchronous GPOs
>
>
>
> Thanks Darren.
>
>
>
> Where I can find the per CSE enable/disable option for my 2nd question.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
> Sitaram
>
> On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 8:20 PM, Darren Mar-Elia <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>
> No, asynchronous processing is an all or nothing affair. If you enable it,
> then all foreground processing happens asynchronously. Note that that is the
> default since XP. You have to explicitly disable asynchronous processing
> using the “Always wait for the network at computer startup and user logon”
> policy.
>
>
>
> As for the 2nd part of your question, same as the first. You can only set
> processing irrespective of changes on a per-CSE basis. So, in other words,
> you can tell GP to always processing Admin. Template policy, regardless of
> changes, or security policy, etc. But not on a per GPO basis.
>
>
>
> Darren
>
>
>
> *From:* xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
> xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Sitaram Pamarthi
> *Sent:* Saturday, December 26, 2009 1:11 AM
> *To:* xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> *Subject:* [gptalk] asynchronous GPOs
>
>
>
> Is there any option to make only certain GPOs execute asynchronously in a
> Windows 7 environment? Also is it possible to only force certain GPOs to get
> applied irrespective of their version changes?
>
>
>
> I feel having this kind of facilities will really boost the performance.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

dmareliaUser is Offline

Posts:441

01/05/2010 6:32 PM  
Sitaram-
At best, I think that Technet article was poorly worded. At worst, its just wrong. If you think about how GP processing works, there would be no way of "marking" a particular GPO asynchronous vs. synchronous. GP processing is done on a per-CSE basis. A given CSE will process all of the GPOs that contain its settings. If you could somehow designate some GPOs to be processed synchronously and others not, then the processing order would be completely unpredictable. No, I suspect the author was just trying to say that GP processing could occur either synchronously or asynchronously ,which is true. However, it is not granular to the particular GPO.

Darren

From: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Sitaram Pamarthi
Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 5:31 AM
To: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [gptalk] asynchronous GPOs

Darren,

I came across a sentence in Technet which is saying that "You can change the default processing behavior by using a policy setting for each GPO so that processing is asynchronous instead of synchronous". This statement is contradicting with your statement "No, asynchronous processing is an all or nothing affair"
Am I understanding anything wrong here? The technet link I have referred is, http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc758898(WS.10).aspx
On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 6:56 PM, Sitaram Pamarthi <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Just a small correction.

This policy(Always wait for the network at computer startup and user logon) is available under "Computer Configuration\Administrative Templates\System\Logon"
Thanks,
Sitaram
On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 8:19 PM, Darren Mar-Elia <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Computer Configuration\Administrative Templates\System\Group Policy

From: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> [mailto:xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>] On Behalf Of Sitaram Pamarthi
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 3:14 AM

To: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [gptalk] asynchronous GPOs

Thanks Darren.

Where I can find the per CSE enable/disable option for my 2nd question.

Thanks,
Sitaram
On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 8:20 PM, Darren Mar-Elia <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
No, asynchronous processing is an all or nothing affair. If you enable it, then all foreground processing happens asynchronously. Note that that is the default since XP. You have to explicitly disable asynchronous processing using the "Always wait for the network at computer startup and user logon" policy.

As for the 2nd part of your question, same as the first. You can only set processing irrespective of changes on a per-CSE basis. So, in other words, you can tell GP to always processing Admin. Template policy, regardless of changes, or security policy, etc. But not on a per GPO basis.

Darren

From: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> [mailto:xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>] On Behalf Of Sitaram Pamarthi
Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2009 1:11 AM
To: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [gptalk] asynchronous GPOs

Is there any option to make only certain GPOs execute asynchronously in a Windows 7 environment? Also is it possible to only force certain GPOs to get applied irrespective of their version changes?

I feel having this kind of facilities will really boost the performance.

Thanks,





pamarthsUser is Offline

Posts:48

01/06/2010 4:01 AM  
Thanks Darren. I was clear when you said this initially but got confused
after seeing the statement in technet :-)

Thanks again. :-)
On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 12:00 AM, Darren Mar-Elia <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>wrote:

> Sitaram-
>
> At best, I think that Technet article was poorly worded. At worst, its just
> wrong. If you think about how GP processing works, there would be no way of
> “marking” a particular GPO asynchronous vs. synchronous. GP processing is
> done on a per-CSE basis. A given CSE will process all of the GPOs that
> contain its settings. If you could somehow designate some GPOs to be
> processed synchronously and others not, then the processing order would be
> completely unpredictable. No, I suspect the author was just trying to say
> that GP processing could occur either synchronously or asynchronously ,which
> is true. However, it is not granular to the particular GPO.
>
>
>
> Darren
>
>
>
> *From:* xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
> xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Sitaram Pamarthi
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 05, 2010 5:31 AM
>
> *To:* xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> *Subject:* Re: [gptalk] asynchronous GPOs
>
>
>
> Darren,
>
>
>
> I came across a sentence in Technet which is saying that "You can change
> the default processing behavior by using a policy setting for *each GPO*so that processing is asynchronous instead of synchronous". This statement
> is contradicting with your statement "No, asynchronous processing is an
> all or nothing affair"
>
> Am I understanding anything wrong here? The technet link I have referred
> is, http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc758898(WS.10).aspx
>
> On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 6:56 PM, Sitaram Pamarthi <
> xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> Just a small correction.
>
>
>
> This policy(Always wait for the network at computer startup and user logon)
> is available under "Computer Configuration\Administrative
> Templates\System\Logon"
>
> Thanks,
> Sitaram
>
> On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 8:19 PM, Darren Mar-Elia <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>
> Computer Configuration\Administrative Templates\System\Group Policy
>
>
>
> *From:* xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
> xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Sitaram Pamarthi
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 29, 2009 3:14 AM
>
>
> *To:* xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> *Subject:* Re: [gptalk] asynchronous GPOs
>
>
>
> Thanks Darren.
>
>
>
> Where I can find the per CSE enable/disable option for my 2nd question.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
> Sitaram
>
> On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 8:20 PM, Darren Mar-Elia <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>
> No, asynchronous processing is an all or nothing affair. If you enable it,
> then all foreground processing happens asynchronously. Note that that is the
> default since XP. You have to explicitly disable asynchronous processing
> using the “Always wait for the network at computer startup and user logon”
> policy.
>
>
>
> As for the 2nd part of your question, same as the first. You can only set
> processing irrespective of changes on a per-CSE basis. So, in other words,
> you can tell GP to always processing Admin. Template policy, regardless of
> changes, or security policy, etc. But not on a per GPO basis.
>
>
>
> Darren
>
>
>
> *From:* xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
> xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Sitaram Pamarthi
> *Sent:* Saturday, December 26, 2009 1:11 AM
> *To:* xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> *Subject:* [gptalk] asynchronous GPOs
>
>
>
> Is there any option to make only certain GPOs execute asynchronously in a
> Windows 7 environment? Also is it possible to only force certain GPOs to get
> applied irrespective of their version changes?
>
>
>
> I feel having this kind of facilities will really boost the performance.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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