| Author | Messages | |
schobie
Posts:17
 | | 05/05/2010 11:06 AM |
| We have machine builds that forced the classic menu in the Default User
profile for w2k8. We prefer the new Vista Style menu vs. the Classic
Windows 2000 menu. We have the ability to use GPO to for the Vista Style
if there is such a way. Which is why I'm asking here.
After searching, most people want to force the Classic Menu, I'm the
opposite. I ran process monitor and changed the menu style from Classic to
regular (default one out of the box). There are several registry entries.
There are two options I can find in w2k8 gpo user configuration. 1) Classic
menu (disable) and will enforce using the new Vista menu 2) Preferences has
an option to define a task bar and menu layout, but does not force an update
to this option.
The only other option I'm aware is blow the profile away, set the Default
user profile back to defaults and then inherit a new profile. Is there a
easier GPO'ish or single registry hack I'm overlooking?
Steve Schofield
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| dmarelia
Posts:441
| | 05/05/2010 9:43 PM |
| Steve-
I don't know of any other *easier* way to do what you want but I'm think that the disabling of the Classic Menu would be the easiest here. Of course, this means users that want this option won't have it, but maybe that is not a big deal.
Darren
From: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve Schofield
Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2010 1:53 AM
To: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [gptalk] Control Start Menu ?
We have machine builds that forced the classic menu in the Default User profile for w2k8. We prefer the new Vista Style menu vs. the Classic Windows 2000 menu. We have the ability to use GPO to for the Vista Style if there is such a way. Which is why I'm asking here.
After searching, most people want to force the Classic Menu, I'm the opposite. I ran process monitor and changed the menu style from Classic to regular (default one out of the box). There are several registry entries. There are two options I can find in w2k8 gpo user configuration. 1) Classic menu (disable) and will enforce using the new Vista menu 2) Preferences has an option to define a task bar and menu layout, but does not force an update to this option.
The only other option I'm aware is blow the profile away, set the Default user profile back to defaults and then inherit a new profile. Is there a easier GPO'ish or single registry hack I'm overlooking?
Steve Schofield
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| Smsadm
Posts:2
| | 05/05/2010 9:54 PM |
| So your users prefer classic, but you will disable that?
Why?
On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 3:19 PM, Darren Mar-Elia <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>wrote:
> Steve-
>
> I don’t know of any other **easier** way to do what you want but I’m think
> that the disabling of the Classic Menu would be the easiest here. Of course,
> this means users that want this option won’t have it, but maybe that is not
> a big deal.
>
>
> Darren
>
>
>
> *From:* xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
> xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Steve Schofield
> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 05, 2010 1:53 AM
> *To:* xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> *Subject:* [gptalk] Control Start Menu ?
>
>
>
> We have machine builds that forced the classic menu in the Default User
> profile for w2k8. We prefer the new Vista Style menu vs. the Classic
> Windows 2000 menu. We have the ability to use GPO to for the Vista Style
> if there is such a way. Which is why I'm asking here.
>
>
>
> After searching, most people want to force the Classic Menu, I'm the
> opposite. I ran process monitor and changed the menu style from Classic to
> regular (default one out of the box). There are several registry entries.
> There are two options I can find in w2k8 gpo user configuration. 1) Classic
> menu (disable) and will enforce using the new Vista menu 2) Preferences has
> an option to define a task bar and menu layout, but does not force an update
> to this option.
>
>
>
> The only other option I'm aware is blow the profile away, set the Default
> user profile back to defaults and then inherit a new profile. Is there a
> easier GPO'ish or single registry hack I'm overlooking?
>
>
>
> Steve Schofield
>
>
>
>
>
--
smsadm
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| pmgough
Posts:23
| | 05/05/2010 11:20 PM |
| That would also be my question. I *love* the power that Group Policy gives
us administrators in terms of managing the whole end-user experience but
unless there are good technical reasons for doing this then I'd question the
wisdom of imposing your aesthetic taste with regards to the Start Menu on
your users.
Yes, I know that they aren't using 'their' computers but letting them have
some control over the look and feel will give them a far more positive view
on what we do and unless you can convince them that there's a major benefit
to them of doing it your way then I think you're fighting a losing battle.
Just because we can doesn't mean we should...
On 6 May 2010 05:42, sms adm <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> So your users prefer classic, but you will disable that?
> Why?
>
>
> On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 3:19 PM, Darren Mar-Elia <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>
>> Steve-
>>
>> I don’t know of any other **easier** way to do what you want but I’m
>> think that the disabling of the Classic Menu would be the easiest here. Of
>> course, this means users that want this option won’t have it, but maybe that
>> is not a big deal.
>>
>>
>> Darren
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
>> xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Steve Schofield
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 05, 2010 1:53 AM
>> *To:* xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> *Subject:* [gptalk] Control Start Menu ?
>>
>>
>>
>> We have machine builds that forced the classic menu in the Default User
>> profile for w2k8. We prefer the new Vista Style menu vs. the Classic
>> Windows 2000 menu. We have the ability to use GPO to for the Vista Style
>> if there is such a way. Which is why I'm asking here.
>>
>>
>>
>> After searching, most people want to force the Classic Menu, I'm the
>> opposite. I ran process monitor and changed the menu style from Classic to
>> regular (default one out of the box). There are several registry entries.
>> There are two options I can find in w2k8 gpo user configuration. 1) Classic
>> menu (disable) and will enforce using the new Vista menu 2) Preferences has
>> an option to define a task bar and menu layout, but does not force an update
>> to this option.
>>
>>
>>
>> The only other option I'm aware is blow the profile away, set the Default
>> user profile back to defaults and then inherit a new profile. Is there a
>> easier GPO'ish or single registry hack I'm overlooking?
>>
>>
>>
>> Steve Schofield
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> smsadm
>
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| schobie
Posts:17
| | 05/07/2010 7:03 PM |
| Our *users* are my group only who manage 100's of servers, we are not
talking desktops or regular users. We've all agreed to this change  We
don't control the server build process which had the classic enabled by the
orginal server build. That is what I'm trying to "un-do".
Darren, I've "disabled" the classic menu option in the GPO, however my
profile when I login doesn't change to the new menu. I'm curious about
this.
More info.
We have a parent domain called "Main" which my user account is a member,
when I log into these servers, the servers are part of a forest called
"Resource". I have a GPO in the "Resource" forest that applies to a
"domain local group" in the "Resource" forest. The "Main\Username" are
members of the "Resource" forest domain local group. The domain local group
is a local administrator on all servers in the "Resource" forest. Not sure
this makes any difference. There is a one-way trust where "Resource" trusts
"Main", but "Main" does not trust "Resource". Our goal is to have all user
accounts in "Main" and servers in "Resource" for other reasons.
Hope that makes sense.
Steve
On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 5:05 PM, Peter Gough <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> That would also be my question. I *love* the power that Group Policy gives
> us administrators in terms of managing the whole end-user experience but
> unless there are good technical reasons for doing this then I'd question the
> wisdom of imposing your aesthetic taste with regards to the Start Menu on
> your users.
>
> Yes, I know that they aren't using 'their' computers but letting them have
> some control over the look and feel will give them a far more positive view
> on what we do and unless you can convince them that there's a major benefit
> to them of doing it your way then I think you're fighting a losing battle.
>
> Just because we can doesn't mean we should...
>
>
> On 6 May 2010 05:42, sms adm <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> So your users prefer classic, but you will disable that?
>> Why?
>>
>>
>> On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 3:19 PM, Darren Mar-Elia <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>>
>>> Steve-
>>>
>>> I don’t know of any other **easier** way to do what you want but I’m
>>> think that the disabling of the Classic Menu would be the easiest here. Of
>>> course, this means users that want this option won’t have it, but maybe that
>>> is not a big deal.
>>>
>>>
>>> Darren
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
>>> xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Steve Schofield
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 05, 2010 1:53 AM
>>> *To:* xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> *Subject:* [gptalk] Control Start Menu ?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> We have machine builds that forced the classic menu in the Default User
>>> profile for w2k8. We prefer the new Vista Style menu vs. the Classic
>>> Windows 2000 menu. We have the ability to use GPO to for the Vista Style
>>> if there is such a way. Which is why I'm asking here.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> After searching, most people want to force the Classic Menu, I'm the
>>> opposite. I ran process monitor and changed the menu style from Classic to
>>> regular (default one out of the box). There are several registry entries.
>>> There are two options I can find in w2k8 gpo user configuration. 1) Classic
>>> menu (disable) and will enforce using the new Vista menu 2) Preferences has
>>> an option to define a task bar and menu layout, but does not force an update
>>> to this option.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The only other option I'm aware is blow the profile away, set the Default
>>> user profile back to defaults and then inherit a new profile. Is there a
>>> easier GPO'ish or single registry hack I'm overlooking?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Steve Schofield
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> smsadm
>>
>
>
| | | |
| thomasv
Posts:0
| | 05/08/2010 2:40 PM |
| Is there a need to log on those servers using remote desktop? Why not just have one or two servers configured as terminal servers (so more than 2 admins can log on) and install all your management consoles/tools over there? You could then configure the start menu over there as you prefer.
In that case you rarely have to log on a server yourself...
Regards,
Thomas
From: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve Schofield
Sent: vrijdag 7 mei 2010 18:48
To: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [gptalk] Control Start Menu ?
Sensitivity: Confidential
Our *users* are my group only who manage 100's of servers, we are not talking desktops or regular users. We've all agreed to this change We don't control the server build process which had the classic enabled by the orginal server build. That is what I'm trying to "un-do".
Darren, I've "disabled" the classic menu option in the GPO, however my profile when I login doesn't change to the new menu. I'm curious about this.
More info.
We have a parent domain called "Main" which my user account is a member, when I log into these servers, the servers are part of a forest called "Resource". I have a GPO in the "Resource" forest that applies to a "domain local group" in the "Resource" forest. The "Main\Username" are members of the "Resource" forest domain local group. The domain local group is a local administrator on all servers in the "Resource" forest. Not sure this makes any difference. There is a one-way trust where "Resource" trusts "Main", but "Main" does not trust "Resource". Our goal is to have all user accounts in "Main" and servers in "Resource" for other reasons.
Hope that makes sense.
Steve
On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 5:05 PM, Peter Gough <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
That would also be my question. I *love* the power that Group Policy gives us administrators in terms of managing the whole end-user experience but unless there are good technical reasons for doing this then I'd question the wisdom of imposing your aesthetic taste with regards to the Start Menu on your users.
Yes, I know that they aren't using 'their' computers but letting them have some control over the look and feel will give them a far more positive view on what we do and unless you can convince them that there's a major benefit to them of doing it your way then I think you're fighting a losing battle.
Just because we can doesn't mean we should...
On 6 May 2010 05:42, sms adm <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
So your users prefer classic, but you will disable that?
Why?
On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 3:19 PM, Darren Mar-Elia <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Steve-
I don't know of any other *easier* way to do what you want but I'm think that the disabling of the Classic Menu would be the easiest here. Of course, this means users that want this option won't have it, but maybe that is not a big deal.
Darren
From: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> [mailto:xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>] On Behalf Of Steve Schofield
Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2010 1:53 AM
To: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [gptalk] Control Start Menu ?
We have machine builds that forced the classic menu in the Default User profile for w2k8. We prefer the new Vista Style menu vs. the Classic Windows 2000 menu. We have the ability to use GPO to for the Vista Style if there is such a way. Which is why I'm asking here.
After searching, most people want to force the Classic Menu, I'm the opposite. I ran process monitor and changed the menu style from Classic to regular (default one out of the box). There are several registry entries. There are two options I can find in w2k8 gpo user configuration. 1) Classic menu (disable) and will enforce using the new Vista menu 2) Preferences has an option to define a task bar and menu layout, but does not force an update to this option.
The only other option I'm aware is blow the profile away, set the Default user profile back to defaults and then inherit a new profile. Is there a easier GPO'ish or single registry hack I'm overlooking?
Steve Schofield
--
smsadm
| | | |
| schobie
Posts:17
| | 05/09/2010 1:49 AM |
| We have utility servers that we perform some / most admin duties if
possible. We also have login into boxes via remote desktop on occasion.
SS
On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 8:14 AM, Thomas Vuylsteke <
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Is there a need to log on those servers using remote desktop? Why not
> just have one or two servers configured as terminal servers (so more than 2
> admins can log on) and install all your management consoles/tools over
> there? You could then configure the start menu over there as you prefer.
>
>
>
> In that case you rarely have to log on a server yourself…
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Thomas
>
>
>
> *From:* xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
> xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Steve Schofield
> *Sent:* vrijdag 7 mei 2010 18:48
>
> *To:* xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> *Subject:* Re: [gptalk] Control Start Menu ?
> *Sensitivity:* Confidential
>
>
>
> Our *users* are my group only who manage 100's of servers, we are not
> talking desktops or regular users. We've all agreed to this change We
> don't control the server build process which had the classic enabled by the
> orginal server build. That is what I'm trying to "un-do".
>
>
>
> Darren, I've "disabled" the classic menu option in the GPO, however my
> profile when I login doesn't change to the new menu. I'm curious about
> this.
>
>
>
>
>
> More info.
>
>
>
> We have a parent domain called "Main" which my user account is a member,
> when I log into these servers, the servers are part of a forest called
> "Resource". I have a GPO in the "Resource" forest that applies to a
> "domain local group" in the "Resource" forest. The "Main\Username" are
> members of the "Resource" forest domain local group. The domain local group
> is a local administrator on all servers in the "Resource" forest. Not sure
> this makes any difference. There is a one-way trust where "Resource" trusts
> "Main", but "Main" does not trust "Resource". Our goal is to have all user
> accounts in "Main" and servers in "Resource" for other reasons.
>
>
>
> Hope that makes sense.
>
> Steve
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 5:05 PM, Peter Gough <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> That would also be my question. I *love* the power that Group Policy gives
> us administrators in terms of managing the whole end-user experience but
> unless there are good technical reasons for doing this then I'd question the
> wisdom of imposing your aesthetic taste with regards to the Start Menu on
> your users.
>
> Yes, I know that they aren't using 'their' computers but letting them have
> some control over the look and feel will give them a far more positive view
> on what we do and unless you can convince them that there's a major benefit
> to them of doing it your way then I think you're fighting a losing battle.
>
> Just because we can doesn't mean we should...
>
>
>
> On 6 May 2010 05:42, sms adm <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> So your users prefer classic, but you will disable that?
> Why?
>
>
>
> On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 3:19 PM, Darren Mar-Elia <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>
> Steve-
>
> I don’t know of any other **easier** way to do what you want but I’m think
> that the disabling of the Classic Menu would be the easiest here. Of course,
> this means users that want this option won’t have it, but maybe that is not
> a big deal.
>
>
> Darren
>
>
>
> *From:* xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
> xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Steve Schofield
> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 05, 2010 1:53 AM
> *To:* xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> *Subject:* [gptalk] Control Start Menu ?
>
>
>
> We have machine builds that forced the classic menu in the Default User
> profile for w2k8. We prefer the new Vista Style menu vs. the Classic
> Windows 2000 menu. We have the ability to use GPO to for the Vista Style
> if there is such a way. Which is why I'm asking here.
>
>
>
> After searching, most people want to force the Classic Menu, I'm the
> opposite. I ran process monitor and changed the menu style from Classic to
> regular (default one out of the box). There are several registry entries.
> There are two options I can find in w2k8 gpo user configuration. 1) Classic
> menu (disable) and will enforce using the new Vista menu 2) Preferences has
> an option to define a task bar and menu layout, but does not force an update
> to this option.
>
>
>
> The only other option I'm aware is blow the profile away, set the Default
> user profile back to defaults and then inherit a new profile. Is there a
> easier GPO'ish or single registry hack I'm overlooking?
>
>
>
> Steve Schofield
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> smsadm
>
>
>
>
>
| | | |
| petertjohnson
Posts:18
| | 05/10/2010 10:40 AM |
| I couldn't agree more. I think that locking things like desktop wallpapers down to a point where a user can't change it is draconian and has a negative impact on staff morale. I fully understand the implementation of policies that address nudity etc. on corporate user's wallpapers but this is not something that can be addressed by technology at least not effectively in my view.
Someone once said: "There are seldom technological solutions to behavioural problems" and I couldn't agree more.
Regards
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Peter Johnson
I.T Architect
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South Africa: +27 11 252 1100
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Mobile: +2783 306 0019
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From: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Peter Gough
Sent: 05 May 2010 23:06
To: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [gptalk] Control Start Menu ?
That would also be my question. I *love* the power that Group Policy gives us administrators in terms of managing the whole end-user experience but unless there are good technical reasons for doing this then I'd question the wisdom of imposing your aesthetic taste with regards to the Start Menu on your users.
Yes, I know that they aren't using 'their' computers but letting them have some control over the look and feel will give them a far more positive view on what we do and unless you can convince them that there's a major benefit to them of doing it your way then I think you're fighting a losing battle.
Just because we can doesn't mean we should...
On 6 May 2010 05:42, sms adm <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
So your users prefer classic, but you will disable that?
Why?
On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 3:19 PM, Darren Mar-Elia <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Steve-
I don't know of any other *easier* way to do what you want but I'm think that the disabling of the Classic Menu would be the easiest here. Of course, this means users that want this option won't have it, but maybe that is not a big deal.
Darren
From: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> [mailto:xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>] On Behalf Of Steve Schofield
Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2010 1:53 AM
To: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [gptalk] Control Start Menu ?
We have machine builds that forced the classic menu in the Default User profile for w2k8. We prefer the new Vista Style menu vs. the Classic Windows 2000 menu. We have the ability to use GPO to for the Vista Style if there is such a way. Which is why I'm asking here.
After searching, most people want to force the Classic Menu, I'm the opposite. I ran process monitor and changed the menu style from Classic to regular (default one out of the box). There are several registry entries. There are two options I can find in w2k8 gpo user configuration. 1) Classic menu (disable) and will enforce using the new Vista menu 2) Preferences has an option to define a task bar and menu layout, but does not force an update to this option.
The only other option I'm aware is blow the profile away, set the Default user profile back to defaults and then inherit a new profile. Is there a easier GPO'ish or single registry hack I'm overlooking?
Steve Schofield
--
smsadm
| | | |
| dmarelia
Posts:441
| | 05/10/2010 5:49 PM |
| I did a webinar recently on desktop lockdown and this was one of my top 5 recommendations. Having been through the "ZAK Wars" (Zero Admin Kit) of NT 4.0, I typically recommend to folks that they try not to turn the knob just because its there. There is a predilection to use all those knobs and switches just because we have them, but not only does it frustrate users, I've seen firsthand how it can also add to your help desk costs and even cause app compat issues. The best approach is to let business and security goals drive your lockdown decisions rather than letting IT drive them. Less is definitely more when it comes to desktop lockdown.
Darren
From: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Peter Johnson
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 1:28 AM
To: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [gptalk] Control Start Menu ?
I couldn't agree more. I think that locking things like desktop wallpapers down to a point where a user can't change it is draconian and has a negative impact on staff morale. I fully understand the implementation of policies that address nudity etc. on corporate user's wallpapers but this is not something that can be addressed by technology at least not effectively in my view.
Someone once said: "There are seldom technological solutions to behavioural problems" and I couldn't agree more.
Regards
[cid:image001.jpg@01CAF01B.61E91950]
Peter Johnson
I.T Architect
United Kingdom: +44 1285 658542
South Africa: +27 11 252 1100
Swaziland: +268 442 7000
Fax:+27 11 974 7130
Mobile: +2783 306 0019
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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From: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Peter Gough
Sent: 05 May 2010 23:06
To: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [gptalk] Control Start Menu ?
That would also be my question. I *love* the power that Group Policy gives us administrators in terms of managing the whole end-user experience but unless there are good technical reasons for doing this then I'd question the wisdom of imposing your aesthetic taste with regards to the Start Menu on your users.
Yes, I know that they aren't using 'their' computers but letting them have some control over the look and feel will give them a far more positive view on what we do and unless you can convince them that there's a major benefit to them of doing it your way then I think you're fighting a losing battle.
Just because we can doesn't mean we should...
On 6 May 2010 05:42, sms adm <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
So your users prefer classic, but you will disable that?
Why?
On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 3:19 PM, Darren Mar-Elia <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Steve-
I don't know of any other *easier* way to do what you want but I'm think that the disabling of the Classic Menu would be the easiest here. Of course, this means users that want this option won't have it, but maybe that is not a big deal.
Darren
From: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> [mailto:xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>] On Behalf Of Steve Schofield
Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2010 1:53 AM
To: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [gptalk] Control Start Menu ?
We have machine builds that forced the classic menu in the Default User profile for w2k8. We prefer the new Vista Style menu vs. the Classic Windows 2000 menu. We have the ability to use GPO to for the Vista Style if there is such a way. Which is why I'm asking here.
After searching, most people want to force the Classic Menu, I'm the opposite. I ran process monitor and changed the menu style from Classic to regular (default one out of the box). There are several registry entries. There are two options I can find in w2k8 gpo user configuration. 1) Classic menu (disable) and will enforce using the new Vista menu 2) Preferences has an option to define a task bar and menu layout, but does not force an update to this option.
The only other option I'm aware is blow the profile away, set the Default user profile back to defaults and then inherit a new profile. Is there a easier GPO'ish or single registry hack I'm overlooking?
Steve Schofield
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