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elcidUser is Offline

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08/06/2010 3:57 PM  

At the bottom of the vista screen near the start button, there is a search object that I need to remove. How can I get rid of this or at least block who has access to it?




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08/06/2010 3:57 PM  
The official name for this item is the Search Box. Using a little
google-foo, there doesn't seem to be a way to remove this item through
either reg edits or GPO. It's hard-coded into a DLL. The only way I'm
seeing to remove it is to switch to classic start menu.



Scott Klassen



From: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Darren Mar-Elia
Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 11:57 AM
To: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [gptalk] Question about GPO with Vista



Surprisingly, I don't see a policy to control this in the obvious places
(e.g. User Config/Admin Templates/Start Menu & Taskbar). Its possible that
its not exposed or I'm just missing it. You might try searching the GP
settings spreadsheet for the word "Search" and see all of the settings that
relate to the Search feature.



Darren



From: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 9:19 AM
To: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [gptalk] Question about GPO with Vista



At the bottom of the vista screen near the start button, there is a search
object that I need to remove. How can I get rid of this or at least block
who has access to it?




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08/06/2010 3:59 PM  
This is the current link

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?displaylang=en&FamilyID=18c90c80-8b0a-4906-a4f5-ff24cc2030fb





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On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 12:26 PM, Darren Mar-Elia <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>wrote:

> Download.microsoft.com <http://download.microsoft.com/>
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> Search on “Group Policy Settings”
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> *From:* xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
> xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 02, 2010 10:11 AM
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> *To:* xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> *Subject:* Re: [gptalk] Question about GPO with Vista
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> where do I get this spreadsheet?
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Darren Mar-Elia <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wed, Jun 2, 2010 12:57 pm
> Subject: RE: [gptalk] Question about GPO with Vista
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> Surprisingly, I don’t see a policy to control this in the obvious places
> (e.g. User Config/Admin Templates/Start Menu & Taskbar). Its possible that
> its not exposed or I’m just missing it. You might try searching the GP
> settings spreadsheet for the word “Search” and see all of the settings that
> relate to the Search feature.
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> Darren
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> *From:* *xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx* <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> [*
> mailto:xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx* <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx?>] *On
> Behalf Of **xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx* <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 02, 2010 9:19 AM
> *To:* *xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx* <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> *Subject:* [gptalk] Question about GPO with Vista
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> At the bottom of the vista screen near the start button, there is a search
> object that I need to remove. How can I get rid of this or at least block
> who has access to it?
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DavidRadfordUser is Offline

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08/06/2010 4:01 PM  
Upon further investigation I believe that the removal of the search facility only works for Classic style start bars. Which can be set via GP. Is that a route you would consider? Changing the start bar to classic and removing the search within that list?

Regards,

Dave

From: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: 03 June 2010 15:03
To: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [gptalk] Question about GPO with Vista

Ok,

I tried the first regedit, and nothing happened. When I tried the second, I got as far as HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\
Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\, but Explorer did not exist as a subkey.

Again, any help you can give youd be greatly appreciated!


-----Original Message-----
From: David Radford <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wed, Jun 2, 2010 1:13 pm
Subject: RE: [gptalk] Question about GPO with Vista
I work within a mainly XP Environment however I believe the registry tweaks you need are either:

HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Directory\shell\find
Create a new string Value and name it as “LegacyDisable”(without quotes).

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\
Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\Explorer
modify or create a new DWORD value named NoFind and set the value data to 1.

Both will require restart of the machine, once you have tested and confirmed working then an .adm can be created to set this registry change.

Any problems and ill remotely connect to a vista machine and double check the reg.

Regards,


Dave

From: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> [mailto:xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx?>] On Behalf Of Darren Mar-Elia
Sent: 02 June 2010 17:57
To: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: [gptalk] Question about GPO with Vista

Surprisingly, I don’t see a policy to control this in the obvious places (e.g. User Config/Admin Templates/Start Menu & Taskbar). Its possible that its not exposed or I’m just missing it. You might try searching the GP settings spreadsheet for the word “Search” and see all of the settings that relate to the Search feature.

Darren

From: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> [mailto:xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx?>] On Behalf Of xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 9:19 AM
To: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [gptalk] Question about GPO with Vista

At the bottom of the vista screen near the start button, there is a search object that I need to remove. How can I get rid of this or at least block who has access to it?


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klas9574User is Offline

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08/06/2010 4:03 PM  
Well, if he wants the newer menu, he’s stuck with the Search Box. That being said, the thing that you CAN do is modify the behavior of the Search Box so that it will not search for files. Doing so will make it so that it will only act as a shortcut means of accessing other start menu items.



Scott Klassen



From: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Darren Mar-Elia
Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 9:34 AM
To: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [gptalk] Question about GPO with Vista



But he wants to eliminate the ability to search the machine? Any particular reason? Are you removing search from all other entry points in Windows as well?







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Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 7:24 AM
To: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [gptalk] Question about GPO with Vista



The client in question says that he wants to stay with the newer style because it "Looks newer". Nevermind that it is causing me a ton of extra work!





-----Original Message-----
From: David Radford <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thu, Jun 3, 2010 10:21 am
Subject: RE: [gptalk] Question about GPO with Vista

Upon further investigation I believe that the removal of the search facility only works for Classic style start bars. Which can be set via GP. Is that a route you would consider? Changing the start bar to classic and removing the search within that list?



Regards,



Dave



From: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx?> ] On Behalf Of xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: 03 June 2010 15:03
To: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [gptalk] Question about GPO with Vista



Ok,



I tried the first regedit, and nothing happened. When I tried the second, I got as far as HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\
Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\, but Explorer did not exist as a subkey.



Again, any help you can give youd be greatly appreciated!





-----Original Message-----
From: David Radford <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wed, Jun 2, 2010 1:13 pm
Subject: RE: [gptalk] Question about GPO with Vista

I work within a mainly XP Environment however I believe the registry tweaks you need are either:



HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Directory\shell\find

Create a new string Value and name it as “LegacyDisable”(without quotes).



HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\
Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\Explorer

modify or create a new DWORD value named NoFind and set the value data to 1.



Both will require restart of the machine, once you have tested and confirmed working then an .adm can be created to set this registry change.



Any problems and ill remotely connect to a vista machine and double check the reg.



Regards,





Dave



From: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx?> ] On Behalf Of Darren Mar-Elia
Sent: 02 June 2010 17:57
To: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [gptalk] Question about GPO with Vista



Surprisingly, I don’t see a policy to control this in the obvious places (e.g. User Config/Admin Templates/Start Menu & Taskbar). Its possible that its not exposed or I’m just missing it. You might try searching the GP settings spreadsheet for the word “Search” and see all of the settings that relate to the Search feature.



Darren



From: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx?> ] On Behalf Of xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 9:19 AM
To: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [gptalk] Question about GPO with Vista



At the bottom of the vista screen near the start button, there is a search object that I need to remove. How can I get rid of this or at least block who has access to it?



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We reserve any and all possible rights to privilege in respect of this communication.


We do not accept service by email nor can this or any email from us act as acceptance of an offer to this Company or any member of its group of companies. Pell Frischmann does not authorise any contract to be made using email.





We accept no liability for communications that are either personal in nature or do not relate to the business of Pell Frischmann.


Any file attachments to this communication will have been virus checked prior to transmission, however you should carry out your own virus check before opening.


Accordingly we do not accept liability for any damage or loss that may occur from software viruses that may be attached to this communication.


Pell Frischmann Registered Office: 5 Manchester Square London W1U 3PD


"Pell Frischmann" is the trading name of companies registered in England:


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