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davesharples
Posts:55
 | | 02/02/2009 10:51 AM |
| Hi,
Question about group policy preferences in conjunction with software installation.
Got some software installed via MSI and currently we used a startup script to relocate icons on the start menu / delete Desktop icons for all users.
Now, GPP seems to be able to do this and looks 'cleaner' (am I right here?)
Question: On policy removal do the moved shortcuts then disappear as well?
Thanks
Dave
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| davesharples
Posts:55
| | 02/04/2009 5:54 AM |
| I've been looking at the GPP now and I have it removing unwanted shortcust from the desktop etc, works well.
What I cannot see a way of doing is moving a Start menu folder from one place to another, e.g. I have a folder call SIL Software which sits on the top level of Programs for All users, I want to move it to Accessories (and all the shortcuts in it). Doesn't seem to be an easy way to do that via the files or shortcuts options (currently use a startup script).
Also when creating a shortcut, it gives me a number of options about where to place it, e.g. start menu, programs, desktop etc. What doesn't seem obvious to me anyway is if I want to place it further down the Start menu tree, there is an option for <Specify Full Path> but I don't seem to see where I can enter the full path.
Can anyone enlighten me please 
Thanks
Dave
>-----Original Message-----
>From: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gptalk-
>xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Darren Mar-Elia
>Sent: 02 February 2009 16:30
>To: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: RE: [gptalk] Group Policy preferences
>
>In terms of GP Preferences, yes, it is able to deliver shortcuts quite
>nicely. You have to explicitly tell it to remove stuff when the policy
>is no
>longer in use however. That is a check box option on the Common tab for
>each
>policy.
>
>Darren
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gptalk-
>xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>On Behalf Of Dave Sharples
>Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 7:45 AM
>To: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: [gptalk] Group Policy preferences
>
>Hi,
>
>Question about group policy preferences in conjunction with software
>installation.
>
>Got some software installed via MSI and currently we used a startup
>script
>to relocate icons on the start menu / delete Desktop icons for all
>users.
>
>Now, GPP seems to be able to do this and looks 'cleaner' (am I right
>here?)
>
>Question: On policy removal do the moved shortcuts then disappear as
>well?
>
>Thanks
>
>Dave
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| Darren
Posts:103
| | 02/04/2009 10:37 AM |
| Dave-
I think moving of a folder is going to be tough with GPP out of the box.
You're probably better off using a startup script to do that.
As for the <Specify Full Path> thing, I took that as simply being a
placeholder entry that requires you to choose one of the fixed folder
locations in the dropdown list.
Darren
-----Original Message-----
From: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Dave Sharples
Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 2:47 AM
To: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [gptalk] Group Policy preferences
I've been looking at the GPP now and I have it removing unwanted shortcust
from the desktop etc, works well.
What I cannot see a way of doing is moving a Start menu folder from one
place to another, e.g. I have a folder call SIL Software which sits on the
top level of Programs for All users, I want to move it to Accessories (and
all the shortcuts in it). Doesn't seem to be an easy way to do that via the
files or shortcuts options (currently use a startup script).
Also when creating a shortcut, it gives me a number of options about where
to place it, e.g. start menu, programs, desktop etc. What doesn't seem
obvious to me anyway is if I want to place it further down the Start menu
tree, there is an option for <Specify Full Path> but I don't seem to see
where I can enter the full path.
Can anyone enlighten me please
Thanks
Dave
>-----Original Message-----
>From: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gptalk-
>xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Darren Mar-Elia
>Sent: 02 February 2009 16:30
>To: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: RE: [gptalk] Group Policy preferences
>
>In terms of GP Preferences, yes, it is able to deliver shortcuts quite
>nicely. You have to explicitly tell it to remove stuff when the policy
>is no
>longer in use however. That is a check box option on the Common tab for
>each
>policy.
>
>Darren
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gptalk-
>xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>On Behalf Of Dave Sharples
>Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 7:45 AM
>To: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: [gptalk] Group Policy preferences
>
>Hi,
>
>Question about group policy preferences in conjunction with software
>installation.
>
>Got some software installed via MSI and currently we used a startup
>script
>to relocate icons on the start menu / delete Desktop icons for all
>users.
>
>Now, GPP seems to be able to do this and looks 'cleaner' (am I right
>here?)
>
>Question: On policy removal do the moved shortcuts then disappear as
>well?
>
>Thanks
>
>Dave
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| davesharples
Posts:55
| | 02/04/2009 10:40 AM |
| Thanks Darren, do you infer from that that you only can place items in the list supplied rather than elsewhere down the start menu tree?
>-----Original Message-----
>From: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gptalk-
>xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Darren Mar-Elia
>Sent: 04 February 2009 15:29
>To: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: RE: [gptalk] Group Policy preferences
>
>Dave-
>I think moving of a folder is going to be tough with GPP out of the box.
>You're probably better off using a startup script to do that.
>
>As for the <Specify Full Path> thing, I took that as simply being a
>placeholder entry that requires you to choose one of the fixed folder
>locations in the dropdown list.
>
>Darren
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gptalk-
>xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>On Behalf Of Dave Sharples
>Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 2:47 AM
>To: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: RE: [gptalk] Group Policy preferences
>
>I've been looking at the GPP now and I have it removing unwanted
>shortcust
>from the desktop etc, works well.
>
>What I cannot see a way of doing is moving a Start menu folder from one
>place to another, e.g. I have a folder call SIL Software which sits on
>the
>top level of Programs for All users, I want to move it to Accessories
>(and
>all the shortcuts in it). Doesn't seem to be an easy way to do that via
>the
>files or shortcuts options (currently use a startup script).
>
>Also when creating a shortcut, it gives me a number of options about
>where
>to place it, e.g. start menu, programs, desktop etc. What doesn't seem
>obvious to me anyway is if I want to place it further down the Start
>menu
>tree, there is an option for <Specify Full Path> but I don't seem to see
>where I can enter the full path.
>
>Can anyone enlighten me please
>
>Thanks
>
>Dave
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gptalk-
>>xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Darren Mar-Elia
>>Sent: 02 February 2009 16:30
>>To: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>Subject: RE: [gptalk] Group Policy preferences
>>
>>In terms of GP Preferences, yes, it is able to deliver shortcuts quite
>>nicely. You have to explicitly tell it to remove stuff when the policy
>>is no
>>longer in use however. That is a check box option on the Common tab for
>>each
>>policy.
>>
>>Darren
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gptalk-
>>xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>>On Behalf Of Dave Sharples
>>Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 7:45 AM
>>To: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>Subject: [gptalk] Group Policy preferences
>>
>>Hi,
>>
>>Question about group policy preferences in conjunction with software
>>installation.
>>
>>Got some software installed via MSI and currently we used a startup
>>script
>>to relocate icons on the start menu / delete Desktop icons for all
>>users.
>>
>>Now, GPP seems to be able to do this and looks 'cleaner' (am I right
>>here?)
>>
>>Question: On policy removal do the moved shortcuts then disappear as
>>well?
>>
>>Thanks
>>
>>Dave
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| jeromelcruz
Posts:123
| | 02/04/2009 6:41 PM |
| Dave,
You could try the Copy Files option (source = current menu location, target=new menu location). Best of these are in the All Users Start menu tree. I've disovered that you "can" use the file copy preference to create a folder path during the copy. Try and see if you can make that work on your own...if you can't let me know and I send you the tip. (I don't have it handy right now...)
Then a week or so later, delete the "source" folder using the 'Folders' preference.
(I supposed you could try to combine... but at least use a filter to delete the folder only when a file in the new folder "exists".)
See... preferences allow you to get creative.
Jerry Cruz | Group Policies Product Manager | Windows Infrastructure Architecture | CNO | Boeing IT
Office 425-865-6755 | Mobile 425-591-6491
-----Original Message-----
From: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Dave Sharples
Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 7:33 AM
To: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [gptalk] Group Policy preferences
Thanks Darren, do you infer from that that you only can place items in the list supplied rather than elsewhere down the start menu tree?
>-----Original Message-----
>From: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gptalk-
>xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Darren Mar-Elia
>Sent: 04 February 2009 15:29
>To: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: RE: [gptalk] Group Policy preferences
>
>Dave-
>I think moving of a folder is going to be tough with GPP out of the box.
>You're probably better off using a startup script to do that.
>
>As for the <Specify Full Path> thing, I took that as simply being a
>placeholder entry that requires you to choose one of the fixed folder
>locations in the dropdown list.
>
>Darren
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gptalk-
>xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>On Behalf Of Dave Sharples
>Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 2:47 AM
>To: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: RE: [gptalk] Group Policy preferences
>
>I've been looking at the GPP now and I have it removing unwanted
>shortcust
>from the desktop etc, works well.
>
>What I cannot see a way of doing is moving a Start menu folder from one
>place to another, e.g. I have a folder call SIL Software which sits on
>the
>top level of Programs for All users, I want to move it to Accessories
>(and
>all the shortcuts in it). Doesn't seem to be an easy way to do that via
>the
>files or shortcuts options (currently use a startup script).
>
>Also when creating a shortcut, it gives me a number of options about
>where
>to place it, e.g. start menu, programs, desktop etc. What doesn't seem
>obvious to me anyway is if I want to place it further down the Start
>menu
>tree, there is an option for <Specify Full Path> but I don't seem to see
>where I can enter the full path.
>
>Can anyone enlighten me please
>
>Thanks
>
>Dave
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gptalk-
>>xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Darren Mar-Elia
>>Sent: 02 February 2009 16:30
>>To: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>Subject: RE: [gptalk] Group Policy preferences
>>
>>In terms of GP Preferences, yes, it is able to deliver shortcuts quite
>>nicely. You have to explicitly tell it to remove stuff when the policy
>>is no
>>longer in use however. That is a check box option on the Common tab for
>>each
>>policy.
>>
>>Darren
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gptalk-
>>xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>>On Behalf Of Dave Sharples
>>Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 7:45 AM
>>To: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>Subject: [gptalk] Group Policy preferences
>>
>>Hi,
>>
>>Question about group policy preferences in conjunction with software
>>installation.
>>
>>Got some software installed via MSI and currently we used a startup
>>script
>>to relocate icons on the start menu / delete Desktop icons for all
>>users.
>>
>>Now, GPP seems to be able to do this and looks 'cleaner' (am I right
>>here?)
>>
>>Question: On policy removal do the moved shortcuts then disappear as
>>well?
>>
>>Thanks
>>
>>Dave
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