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JFinkbinerUser is Offline

Posts:11

09/01/2010 4:37 PM  
I recently changed some proxy settings as we have updated our ISA
server. I was curious to know how others are protecting their end users
from changing proxy settings. I currently have a 2003 native domain and
all computers are running XPSP2 with IE7 or better. It seems that the
user defined proxy settings overwrite the GPO assigned proxy settings
until the user reboots the machine.



Jonathan Finkbiner <mailto:xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
System Engineer
Information Services
Lifestyle Family Fitness <http://www.lff.com/>




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09/01/2010 4:42 PM  
You should be able to enforce per-machine proxy settings if you don't want user to be able to override them in any way.

Jamie Nelson | Sr. Administrator | BI&T Infrastructure-Intel | Devon Energy Corporation | Work: ' 405.552.8054 | Mobile: ' 405.248.7963 | http://www.dvn.com<http://www.dvn.com/>

From: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jonathan Finkbiner
Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 9:43 AM
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Subject: [gptalk] IE Maintenance - Proxy Settings

I recently changed some proxy settings as we have updated our ISA server. I was curious to know how others are protecting their end users from changing proxy settings. I currently have a 2003 native domain and all computers are running XPSP2 with IE7 or better. It seems that the user defined proxy settings overwrite the GPO assigned proxy settings until the user reboots the machine.


Jonathan Finkbiner <mailto:xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
System Engineer
Information Services
Lifestyle Family Fitness<http://www.lff.com/>


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09/01/2010 4:42 PM  
GPO for the proxy setting.. User Configuration Internet Explorer Maintenance

From: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jonathan Finkbiner
Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 10:43 AM
To: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [gptalk] IE Maintenance - Proxy Settings

I recently changed some proxy settings as we have updated our ISA server. I was curious to know how others are protecting their end users from changing proxy settings. I currently have a 2003 native domain and all computers are running XPSP2 with IE7 or better. It seems that the user defined proxy settings overwrite the GPO assigned proxy settings until the user reboots the machine.


Jonathan Finkbiner <mailto:xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
System Engineer
Information Services
Lifestyle Family Fitness<http://www.lff.com/>



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alanhutchinsonUser is Offline

Posts:15

09/01/2010 6:12 PM  
How about :
Windows Components - Internet Explorer - Internet Control Panel -
Disable the Connections Page

This will remove the connections tab.

Regards,

Alan.

________________________________

From: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jonathan Finkbiner
Sent: 01 September 2010 15:43
To: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [gptalk] IE Maintenance - Proxy Settings



I recently changed some proxy settings as we have updated our ISA
server. I was curious to know how others are protecting their end users
from changing proxy settings. I currently have a 2003 native domain and
all computers are running XPSP2 with IE7 or better. It seems that the
user defined proxy settings overwrite the GPO assigned proxy settings
until the user reboots the machine.



Jonathan Finkbiner <mailto:xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
System Engineer
Information Services
Lifestyle Family Fitness <http://www.lff.com/>




WellingonISUser is Offline

Posts:14

09/01/2010 6:14 PM  
That's good but if you have a bunch of machines that's going to be much running around.

From: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Hutchinson, Alan
Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 12:12 PM
To: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [gptalk] IE Maintenance - Proxy Settings

How about :
Windows Components - Internet Explorer - Internet Control Panel - Disable the Connections Page

This will remove the connections tab.

Regards,

Alan.

________________________________
From: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jonathan Finkbiner
Sent: 01 September 2010 15:43
To: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [gptalk] IE Maintenance - Proxy Settings
I recently changed some proxy settings as we have updated our ISA server. I was curious to know how others are protecting their end users from changing proxy settings. I currently have a 2003 native domain and all computers are running XPSP2 with IE7 or better. It seems that the user defined proxy settings overwrite the GPO assigned proxy settings until the user reboots the machine.


Jonathan Finkbiner <mailto:xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
System Engineer
Information Services
Lifestyle Family Fitness<http://www.lff.com/>



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alanhutchinsonUser is Offline

Posts:15

09/01/2010 6:21 PM  
Ilene,
I'm not sure what you mean by much running around I'm afraid.

REgards,

Alan.

________________________________

From: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Rosner, Ilene
Sent: 01 September 2010 17:16
To: 'xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: RE: [gptalk] IE Maintenance - Proxy Settings



That's good but if you have a bunch of machines that's going to be much
running around.



From: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Hutchinson, Alan
Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 12:12 PM
To: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [gptalk] IE Maintenance - Proxy Settings



How about :

Windows Components - Internet Explorer - Internet Control Panel -
Disable the Connections Page



This will remove the connections tab.



Regards,



Alan.



________________________________

From: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jonathan Finkbiner
Sent: 01 September 2010 15:43
To: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [gptalk] IE Maintenance - Proxy Settings

I recently changed some proxy settings as we have updated our ISA
server. I was curious to know how others are protecting their end users
from changing proxy settings. I currently have a 2003 native domain and
all computers are running XPSP2 with IE7 or better. It seems that the
user defined proxy settings overwrite the GPO assigned proxy settings
until the user reboots the machine.



Jonathan Finkbiner <mailto:xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
System Engineer
Information Services
Lifestyle Family Fitness <http://www.lff.com/>






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omarUser is Offline

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09/01/2010 6:29 PM  
Be Afraid- Be very Afraid!

If you don't want them to change proxy settings you need to think about involving the networking group.

Considering controlling Web and Internet access at the network level with a firewall- so if they change their proxy settings- No Internet access. This will keep users from making changes.

For a lot of IE management- I prefer user logon scripts/computer startup scripts.

My preference is to set the valued but give the users the ability to change if necessary. The IE management with GPO has always proven to me at least to require review/refresh on how it really works and what the results will be with different scenarios. I hate to do a project when it can just be a task. With the logon/startup script- if things are not right- ask the user to logoff/logon or reboot the PC.

My 2 cents.

Omar Droubi





From: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Hutchinson, Alan
Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 9:23 AM
To: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [gptalk] IE Maintenance - Proxy Settings

Ilene,
I'm not sure what you mean by much running around I'm afraid.

REgards,

Alan.

________________________________
From: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Rosner, Ilene
Sent: 01 September 2010 17:16
To: 'xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: RE: [gptalk] IE Maintenance - Proxy Settings
That's good but if you have a bunch of machines that's going to be much running around.

From: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Hutchinson, Alan
Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 12:12 PM
To: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [gptalk] IE Maintenance - Proxy Settings

How about :
Windows Components - Internet Explorer - Internet Control Panel - Disable the Connections Page

This will remove the connections tab.

Regards,

Alan.

________________________________
From: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jonathan Finkbiner
Sent: 01 September 2010 15:43
To: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [gptalk] IE Maintenance - Proxy Settings
I recently changed some proxy settings as we have updated our ISA server. I was curious to know how others are protecting their end users from changing proxy settings. I currently have a 2003 native domain and all computers are running XPSP2 with IE7 or better. It seems that the user defined proxy settings overwrite the GPO assigned proxy settings until the user reboots the machine.


Jonathan Finkbiner <mailto:xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
System Engineer
Information Services
Lifestyle Family Fitness<http://www.lff.com/>




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JFinkbinerUser is Offline

Posts:11

09/03/2010 2:35 PM  
Thanks for the input everyone. I was wondering what you meant by
"enforce per-machine proxy settings" Jamie. Does that effectively remove
the ability for the user to type in their own proxy settings.



The problem that I am trying to circumvent is that initially when a user
logs in, the proxy settings are correct but they still have an option to
alter the settings. Now, as mentioned by Omar I should talk to the
networking group, and after having a long drawn out conversation with
myself :-) I found out that if the proxy setting are manipulated
internet access is denied by a 3rd party web filtering application
(Websense).



Jonathan Finkbiner

________________________________

From: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Omar Droubi
Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 12:45 PM
To: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [gptalk] IE Maintenance - Proxy Settings



Be Afraid- Be very Afraid!



If you don't want them to change proxy settings you need to think about
involving the networking group.



Considering controlling Web and Internet access at the network level
with a firewall- so if they change their proxy settings- No Internet
access. This will keep users from making changes.



For a lot of IE management- I prefer user logon scripts/computer startup
scripts.



My preference is to set the valued but give the users the ability to
change if necessary. The IE management with GPO has always proven to me
at least to require review/refresh on how it really works and what the
results will be with different scenarios. I hate to do a project when it
can just be a task. With the logon/startup script- if things are not
right- ask the user to logoff/logon or reboot the PC.



My 2 cents.



Omar Droubi











From: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Hutchinson, Alan
Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 9:23 AM
To: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [gptalk] IE Maintenance - Proxy Settings



Ilene,

I'm not sure what you mean by much running around I'm afraid.



REgards,



Alan.



________________________________

From: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Rosner, Ilene
Sent: 01 September 2010 17:16
To: 'xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: RE: [gptalk] IE Maintenance - Proxy Settings

That's good but if you have a bunch of machines that's going to be much
running around.



From: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Hutchinson, Alan
Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 12:12 PM
To: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [gptalk] IE Maintenance - Proxy Settings



How about :

Windows Components - Internet Explorer - Internet Control Panel -
Disable the Connections Page



This will remove the connections tab.



Regards,



Alan.



________________________________

From: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jonathan Finkbiner
Sent: 01 September 2010 15:43
To: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [gptalk] IE Maintenance - Proxy Settings

I recently changed some proxy settings as we have updated our ISA
server. I was curious to know how others are protecting their end users
from changing proxy settings. I currently have a 2003 native domain and
all computers are running XPSP2 with IE7 or better. It seems that the
user defined proxy settings overwrite the GPO assigned proxy settings
until the user reboots the machine.



Jonathan Finkbiner <mailto:xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
System Engineer
Information Services
Lifestyle Family Fitness <http://www.lff.com/>






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attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may
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alanhutchinsonUser is Offline

Posts:15

09/03/2010 3:03 PM  
I probably didn't make it very clear in my earlier post - you can hide
the connections tab in internet options by setting the policy I outlined
below. Probably won't stop them changing it by editing the registry
though ....

Regards,

Alan.

________________________________

From: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jonathan Finkbiner
Sent: 03 September 2010 13:15
To: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [gptalk] IE Maintenance - Proxy Settings



Thanks for the input everyone. I was wondering what you meant by
"enforce per-machine proxy settings" Jamie. Does that effectively remove
the ability for the user to type in their own proxy settings.



The problem that I am trying to circumvent is that initially when a user
logs in, the proxy settings are correct but they still have an option to
alter the settings. Now, as mentioned by Omar I should talk to the
networking group, and after having a long drawn out conversation with
myself :-) I found out that if the proxy setting are manipulated
internet access is denied by a 3rd party web filtering application
(Websense).



Jonathan Finkbiner

________________________________

From: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Omar Droubi
Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 12:45 PM
To: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [gptalk] IE Maintenance - Proxy Settings



Be Afraid- Be very Afraid!



If you don't want them to change proxy settings you need to think about
involving the networking group.



Considering controlling Web and Internet access at the network level
with a firewall- so if they change their proxy settings- No Internet
access. This will keep users from making changes.



For a lot of IE management- I prefer user logon scripts/computer startup
scripts.



My preference is to set the valued but give the users the ability to
change if necessary. The IE management with GPO has always proven to me
at least to require review/refresh on how it really works and what the
results will be with different scenarios. I hate to do a project when it
can just be a task. With the logon/startup script- if things are not
right- ask the user to logoff/logon or reboot the PC.



My 2 cents.



Omar Droubi











From: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Hutchinson, Alan
Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 9:23 AM
To: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [gptalk] IE Maintenance - Proxy Settings



Ilene,

I'm not sure what you mean by much running around I'm afraid.



REgards,



Alan.



________________________________

From: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Rosner, Ilene
Sent: 01 September 2010 17:16
To: 'xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: RE: [gptalk] IE Maintenance - Proxy Settings

That's good but if you have a bunch of machines that's going to be much
running around.



From: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Hutchinson, Alan
Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 12:12 PM
To: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [gptalk] IE Maintenance - Proxy Settings



How about :

Windows Components - Internet Explorer - Internet Control Panel -
Disable the Connections Page



This will remove the connections tab.



Regards,



Alan.



________________________________

From: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jonathan Finkbiner
Sent: 01 September 2010 15:43
To: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [gptalk] IE Maintenance - Proxy Settings

I recently changed some proxy settings as we have updated our ISA
server. I was curious to know how others are protecting their end users
from changing proxy settings. I currently have a 2003 native domain and
all computers are running XPSP2 with IE7 or better. It seems that the
user defined proxy settings overwrite the GPO assigned proxy settings
until the user reboots the machine.



Jonathan Finkbiner <mailto:xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
System Engineer
Information Services
Lifestyle Family Fitness <http://www.lff.com/>






UHS Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any
attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may
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